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Moringa Oleifera

  • By Brian in TN

    Stopping by a Planet Nutrition store yesterday to try to find a local source of Butterbur and Feverfew the owner tried to convince me to try, or at least, research Moringa Oleifera as a treatment for among other things migraines. I’ve been on line for 4 hours reading one peer reviewed study on migraine behavior in mice that sounds promising, a human trial for hypoglycemia / diabetes that sounded amazing and many unreviewed studies suggesting not only that this is the best thing you can ever eat but that it cures damn near everything! If I read this kind of “magical powder” superlatives on 1 or 2 websites I’d completely ignore it but there are thousands, and lots of people have been using this for thousands of years (literally it’s mentioned in Exodus)! He’s selling XM+ from Ziga corporation that includes Moringa (leaf, seed and fruit powder), ephedra, green tea, ginseng and garlic which costs roughly $3 / day. Surfing around I found organic powdered Moringa Oleifera for $21 for a 90 day supply. I haven’t found any blogs about any migraineurs who have tried this. Does anyone know anyone who has tried this?

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  • By Tammy Rome

    I’m not familiar with Moringa and will need to do more research to offer an opinion. However, I am familiar with ephedra. It was banned from sale in the U.S. back in 2004. It was removed from the FDA’s GRAS (generally recognized as safe) list due to hundreds of reported adverse events, including sudden-onset high blood pressure, cardiac problems, and at least one death by heart attack that was connected to use of an Ephedra-containing weight loss product. It is now available only by prescription and is tightly regulated.

    FDA Final Ruling on Ephedra
    10th Circuit Court of Appeals Upholds Ephedra Ban

    I would also caution against any product claiming to be a “cure-all” or making outrageous claims. Herbs are great and they have their purpose for those trained to use them. However, they are MEDICINE and should be used cautiously by those who have the training. Otherwise, please consult with your doctor before adding any “natural” products. Please be careful. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

    Tammy Rome
    Moderator & Herbalist

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  • By Brian in TN

    Thanks kxn11 and Tammy, I’m really not interested in the XM+, even though talking about it at work I found out one of my friends tried it for 6 months in an attempt to reduce his cholesterol (it failed, but did not affect his migraines). He said it made him feel good with lots of energy! But he stopped using it. It looks to me like it might be a good supplement just do to the vitamins and amino acids it supplies and might even be cheaper than the Niacin, Riboflavin, D3 etc. I’m buying now. I’ll keep researching it while I continue my feverfew / butterbur trial and may well try the Moringa powder made just from the leaves and nothing else, unless I can find a reasonable and safe version that includes the seeds and fruit. So far I’ve not found anyone with problems caused by the shade dried powdered leaves, the sun dried powder apparently loses nutrients, I’ve seen freeze dried powder but no reviews of its’ potency. Pseudoephedrine never bothered my migraines, may have helped in fact, but is so hard to obtain now, but taking anything with a stimulant like ephedra seems way to risky to me so I’ll avoid that.

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  • By Brian in TN

    Actual double blind study….on mice! At least it’s a well constructed study that should be verifiable. The rest of my research shows that Moringa is one of the safest herbal supplements on the market, if you stick to those made exclusively from leaves and/or fruit and seeds. Next month I plan on trialing this. I’ll keep you up to date.

    http://www.greenpharmacy.info/article.asp?issn=0973-8258;year=2012;volume=6;issue=3;spage=204;epage=207;aulast=Upadhye

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  • By Brian in TN

    Started the Moringa this morning, shade dried powdered leaves hand ground and sifted in Africa from Africrops so theoretically it benefits the farmers in villages. It was the only shade dried Moringa I found, everything cheaper was freeze dried. Cost $42 including shipping. Smells like hay but has very little flavor, could barely taste it in the raspberry lemonade I tried to mix it with. Texture on the other hand is a little rough, like many powders it doesn’t mix rapidly with water so it’s gulp and swirl, but if it works it’s definitely better than a migraine. After choking down the first round this morning I added a tbsp to a 16oz bottle of water to see what happens if it soaks overnight. The majority of reviewers said it’s great when you add it to a smoothy, which makes sense, but I’m not set up to make smoothies so apparently some experimentation is called for. I figure I’ve got roughly 90 days worth of powder at 1 tbsp / day, although several sources called for bumping the dose to 2/day and apparently no one has found an upper safety limit on ingestion. Even at 2 tbsp/day I’m under $1/day which I count as cheep. I’ll keep everyone posted, fingers crossed.

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  • By Crystal

    Moringa yes is very powerful
    I have had several health issues restored thanks to Moringa

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  • By Jayinfla

    I was looking for a plant to feed my Tilapia. One that has many vitamins and protein. I was told about Moringa. After reading about Moringa I decided to try taking it for myself as it was supposed to help with energy. I also have Myasthenia Gravis as well as chronic migraine.

    I have been taking a ground up powder of the leaves 1200 mg daily. It slightly helped my energy but I was totally shocked that it helped lower my migraines. I have been taking the Moringa for two weeks now and have only had one migraine compared to almost having them daily.

    I have tried so many medications for my migraines And nothing seemed to help. The last medication I was on was Treximet.
    I am so happy that I tried Moringa. I am not endorsing Moringa but humans have been taking Moringa for thousands of years for many uses.

    Just look into the Moringa tree and read about it, give it a shot it has been a huge surprise for me. I am now trying to raise some Moringa from seeds as I live in Florida and hope they grow well here, I’d like to cut out having to buy them and grow my own.

    Hope it helps you as it has me.

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  • By The Migraine Girl Moderator

    Dear Jayinfla,

    It’s wonderful to hear about treatments that are working for our readers. I’m so pleased that you’ve found something that’s helped with your migraine frequency.

    We encourage all readers to always speak with your doctors/health care providers before starting any new treatment, including those that are “natural” or non-prescription/over-the-counter.

    Take care,
    Janet G.
    “The Migraine Girl”

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  • By Jayinfla

    Just wanted to post where a bunch of scientific research on Moringa can be found. Also I found if you are pregnant you should not take Moringa as it has been found it can cause miscarriages.

    I do not know why it has helped me, maybe I am lacking some minerals or vitamins it has. What ever it is it has made me to be able to get out of my dark room and live again.

    I do not know what 90% of the article really says as a lot of it is in medical terms! hopefully it helps others.

    http://examine.com/supplements/Moringa+oleifera/

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  • By Brian in TN

    Thanks Jayinfla and Crazybeautiful1, the trial hit a bump the 2nd morning when choking down the gritty fluid got harder and harder and mixing it into a smoothy didn’t help. This morning I found: http://www.africamoringa.co.za/how_to_take_moringa_recipes.html#Moringa_Side_Effects, which says you shouldn’t start out with more than 1/2 teaspoon per day and then build up if necessary. Tomorrow morning the trial resumes at the lower dose and I’ll keep everyone informed.

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  • By Violet

    I tried Moringa. First it did what I expected, what I read and what friends told me: I felt I had a boost in energy and a clearer head. I had high hopes for my migraines (I have ten migraine days or more per month). After a while though my migraines increased significantly. I stopped Moringa and my Migraine days decreased back to where they were before.
    I had a talk with an allergist about that effect. He gave me a possible explanation: that too many antioxidants can block DAO in your gut. DAO is that stuff that helps you getting rid of excess tyramine, but especially histamine. For some migraineurs histamine is a potent Migraine trigger. Histamine is not discussed as much as tyramine, but many foods (not all of them!) that have a lot of tyramine have a lot of histamine as well.

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  • By navtd5

    Hello,
    About the scientific research on moringa i should remark that moringa is not always bad for pregnant woman. Its a little risky just in the first few weeks of pregnancy but it is sure healthy and advisable to take after 3 months because the nutrition will pass from mama to baby.
    Babies will born healthier and stronger when mama eat good nutrition… moringa in this case.

    Check http://miracletrees.org/

    also lots of research and studies and specifically also this case of moringa for pregnant woman

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  • By Brian in TN

    Apologies to everyone who has been following this thread for not updating my progress. I eventually gave up on ingesting the powder in a liquid suspension because I just couldn’t prevent a gagging reaction, so I obtained a capsule making kit and started making my own moringa capsules which were much easier to get down. Sadly after 8 months of daily use I didn’t find any observable benefit from the moringa and discontinued its use. Apparently, like every other substance on the planet, it helps a few and leaves others stymied. I did find however that I had no adverse side effects, which makes it much safer to trial than any prescription medication I have heard of.

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