Welcome to the Vertigo Forum
Welcome to the Vertigo Forum
By Teri Robert
Darn it! I’m sorry you’re having such a rough day. Do you do anything to treat your silent Migraines?
Hi. I have had chronic vertigo since June 2002. I now think that silent migraines might be part of the issue. Have either of you had any success with anything you have done?
Well vertigo is a brainstem symptom and can be considered part of the aura, part of the migraine, or the entire migraine itself without the headache. Some people get 1-3 days of vertigo which is similar to the duration in migraine. One study showed Zomig nasal spray aborting attacks of migrainous vertigo.
I once saw a young woman with “cluster vertigo” with daily vertiginous attacks lasting one hour for 6 weeks a year.
I am finally going to a physical therapist for my Vertigo. She says my system is weak. I forget the name of the system but it the system that ties the brain and other things together that tells you if you’re upside down or not. Today will be my 3rd visit. Its going well but my head is seriously pissed off that I’m making it do something. I’ve sheltered myself for literally my entire life that any stimulation throws me out of whack. For 4 days now I’ve been non stop dizzy. I’m not sure if its just because I keep doing the home exercises or that I had a busy weekend. But if its due to the weekend (today’s Tuesday) it should have gotten over itself by now. Not sure but I’m constantly dizzy and it makes my head hurt and I end up sleeping the day away.
Hello! I have been been fighting migraines since 14 (20 yrs), history of anxiety attacks also. Typically Migraine with aura, visual distrubances,and numbness/tingling in left hand forearm, nose, and lips. I take topiramate, and nortriptylin preventative and relpax and sumavel dosepro for abortive. Recently I have this feeling of the room tilting, or feel like I am not sitting flat on the ground. Occasionally this tilting comes with extreme head pressure. Sometimes my hands do not feel like they are attached to or are working separately from my body, or feel extremely large. Does vertigo explain all these sensations?
To put it simply Hoopress, migraine explains all of those symptoms. Vertigo is a particular symptom that can be a symptom of migraine.
My daughter and I both have migraines, she has aura symptoms while I do not. She also experiences occasional times where the “world tilts” and most recently had her first bout of vertigo. It lasted for about 2-3 days and kept her out of school due the nausea. I know that every migaineur is different, but do most people that experience this symptom have it often or just occasionally? Her “tilting” does not happen very often, and I am really hoping this new vertigo symptom is the same way.
pooh2you – each person is different. As always, if there is a concern you should speak with her doctor to be sure that this is what it seems – a symptom of Migraine. Keep an eye out for changes in patterns etc that will trigger the need to be examined again.
I’ve been experiencing varying levels of dizziness and sometimes severe nausea for a couple of years now. Sometimes I’ll end up in full-blown migraine and other times just the dizziness. Often it is just low-level, like being drunk and other times is is so bad I can’t walk without falling down. These attacks usually last for around 4 hours or so… occasionally, it’ll last for several days. My neurologist and I have found that 20mg of Relapax works for a full blown migraine… but he thinks my dizziness is BVVP (it isn’t according to my physical therapist… I’ve passed the test with flying colors). Would the Relapax help for the dizziness too? Is there anything else that would help? Like I said, I can usually prevent a full-on migraine with the Relapax…but the dizziness and nausea is almost as/more debilitating at this point.
kermit4161 – Dizziness can indeed be a Migraine symptom. However it can also be a symptom of other things that may need to be addressed. Therefore, you really probably should be talking to someone who specializes in this. Believe it or not, there are clinics that specialize in dizziness/vertigo and balance issues. I would also encourage you to see a headache specialist instead of a neurologist. Something else you may want to consider is blood work to evaluate your B vitamins, especially vitamin B12. An article on B12 testing will be coming up in the next week or so, so stay tuned. In the meantime, B12 deficiency can go unnoticed and unsuspected for a very long time. It can cause both the nausea and the vertigo or balance issues. Only the correct lab work will tell the story if this is an issue for you or not. If the dizziness is a part of your Migraine, typically aborting the Migraine attack will help with the feeling of vertigo.
Back in February I was hospitalized for vertigo for 3 days as I couldn’t walk or care for myself or my guide dog. I had nausea with the vertigo as well. It ended up being bbpv and when I was discharged I went to physical therapy for several months. I had various exercises to do to help the vestibular system and for the most part I’m back to normal. I still get the vertigo if I turn too quickly or during a migraine attack or before.
RILNISKI – I’m so sorry to hear about your vertigo. There are times when vertigo isn’t associated with our Migraine attacks, and then there are things that can be done to help with the dizziness. My mom gets attacks of severe vertigo and goes to the doctor where they do a *maneuver* twisting her head and that *resets* her balance again. Strange, but very effective!
My young daughter has been struggling with vestibular migraines since Dec 3rd 2012. They have not gone completely away yet. Dr. has her on a preventative since Dec 21st, we communicate often and he has changed her doses a few times. She also now gets the headaches too. We have been trying accupurture for the past 3 weeks and we think it is helping? Has anyone else had luck with accupurture? Her triggers are noises. This is hard in school, she does not go out for recess, or lunch with the kids. She had to stop chours, jazz band(she is a drummer). We are still searching for my triggers, but not much luck. She would like if there are any other kids on this web site that have any of her problems. This is so new to us and so frustrating and sad.
natalie1 – The good news is that she is responding to treatment – Yay! The other good news is that it can take up to 3 months (sometimes even a little more) of a patient on a maintenance dosage of medicine/preventive before many people see a response. If she is already seeing a response, this could continue to get better with time.
What preventive is she currently taking?
She is on 30 mg of Amitriptyline at bed time. I am having such a hard time figuring out her triggers. For sure noise and light are big problems. Not finding any luck with different foods. Question if it is a food item that triggers will it happen right away, or 2 hours after you ate the item?
natalie1 – ALL triggers may take up to 3 days before they actually trigger the attack. This is one reason why discovering our triggers so we can manage them is so difficult. Add to that, triggers are cumulative, so all the triggers for the past 3 days will apply to any potential Migraine.
Does that help?
Okay I kind of skimmed but I figured this might help some of you who have vertigo.
My maternal grandmother has migraines like me but she calls them, “Drunk headaches” She’ll just sit down sometimes and say, “Oh i’m feeling drunk.” Which is her vertigo.
She didn’t have many migraines until a couple of years ago when I became aware of her getting them. Because the vertigo was so bad. She went to a doctor who said the “crystals” in her inner ear might be messed up. There are apparently “Crystals” and “liquid” in your inner ear and are seperated. Taht’s what tells you what’s up and what’s down and such.
He suggested she lay on her back and roll her head very slowly from left to right, and back. Keep it going slow and if she feels sick, to just let it happen and keep going cause it will fix the crystals.
So I know it’s kind of annoying if you feel sick when you do it. But it might work for you guys. He suggested laying on a bed with your head laying off the edge and rolling your neck very carefully and slowly or else you’ll get super dizzy!
So I thought I would suggest that. Though be best to talk to a doctor first. As always.
Teania – This isn’t actually related to Migraine at all, but it is an actual condition. My mom has this from time to time. They did an Epley maneuver for her, and gave her exercises to help. Over time, it did help and when she gets vertigo of this type, she starts the exercises again and within a few days it is gone. Please do be aware though, this is not the same kind of vertigo that is associated with Migraine – that is neurological in nature and not associated with any inner ear pathology.
Here is a Harvard article on the Epley and how to treat yourself. http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/self-help-videos-to-stop-vertigo-work-for-some-not-all-201208065110
I have suffered with vertigo since the summer of 2004. It was last summer that my migraine came on suddenly. Also in August I found out that I am suffering from a hormonal imbalance related to peri-menopause. Is it possible that I actually was suffering from a “silent migraine” since 2004? Neither the vertigo or migraine have had any breaks. Both have remained constant and I wonder if I have been peri-menopausal the entire time.
My neurologist believes the migraine is partially hormonal and partially environmental. To find relief from one or the other would be awesome.